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tanteva

tanteva

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As I told in the Daily O thread yesterday, we watched the movie Yesterday yesterday (What a great sentence that turned out to be LOL).

Anyway, in the movie they mentioned Los Angeles, and pronunced it "Los Ange-LEES". I've always said "Los Ange-LESS". How is is pronunced? Weird I've never heard it before, cuz it really isn't a small boondock place we're talking about LOL

Like I've learned that New York is pronunced "New Yaark", not "New York" by the locals. Is that true? Also reacted when a reader of a audiobook said "House-ton Street" about Houston Street in NY ... I thought he was bad at English (It was a Swedish translation I was listening to ... Turned out, when I googled, that the reader was right and I was wrong.

And just for fun: are there any other pronunciation mistakes that you know is common among us who isn't native English speakers?

And finally: if you haven't seen Yesterday - Do! It's a lovely little movie.

www.imdb.com

Yesterday (2019) ⭐ 6.8 | Comedy, Fantasy, Music

1h 56m | PG-13
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faerywings

faerywings

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I am not sure if I am the one to ask about proper pronunciations since I already fessed up to saying things like "cawfee," tawk," and "dawg." :D

I pronounce New York as it is spelled- York rhymes with fork. Houston St is correctly pronounced House-ton.
As for Los Angeles, I say it An-gel-ez but will defer to locals if that is wrong.

I can't think off the top of my head if there are other words mispronounced by non-native English speaker-Americanized or not. If I do I will be sure to post back
 
Madi

Madi

Diane
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I love language, and this makes no sense to me but that is what I love about it.

House-ton street is a great example, because I immediately think of "Houston, we have a problem"
 
scribler

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Pronunciation varies a lot from place to place. (Keep in mind, it is 2,791 miles from Los Angeles to New York City.) The Houston St example demonstrates this well. In Texas, or I imagine any place out west, it will be pronounced like in Madi's example of "Houston, we have a problem. I pronounce Los Angeles, if I am pronouncing it as an English speaker would (it is a Spanish phrase), more like Las An-ge-less. I would pronounce New York in the same way Chris does. Another example of English craziness is Los Alamos in New Mexico. Here you would not say the "Los" as Las. You would use the long "O", so it's Los A-la-mos, very close to the Spanish pronunciation. And then we don't want to even get in to the craziness of things like "Let's listen to the record" with a short e and "or" pronounced more like "er" as compared to "Let's record an album" with a long "e" and a long "o". Then you you the fact that "red" and "read" are pronounced the same way while you also pronounce "read" as though it were a long "e" depending on usage. I will stop now as I'm sure everyone lost interest two sentences ago. lol
 
Cherylndesigns

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What about "pop" vs "soda"? Michiganders say "pop" and we've been made fun of for that. I guess most places say "soda".
 
tanteva

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Cherylndesigns said:
What about "pop" vs "soda"? Michiganders say "pop" and we've been made fun of for that. I guess most places say "soda".
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I had an on-line friend back in the mailing list days that had her moniker as SodaPop, just to cover all bases. LOL
(She was from a state where they said one word, but lived in a state where they used the other word.)
 
tjscraps

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Cherylndesigns said:
What about "pop" vs "soda"? Michiganders say "pop" and we've been made fun of for that. I guess most places say "soda".
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Canadian here, we say pop ... or the actual type - like Coke, Pepsi, etc. But I don't think I've ever in my life called it soda
 
tanteva

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Soda is the word they teach you in English class at school here in Sweden. Never heard pop before internet. Pop is music. Lol.

My guess is that they say soda in the UK? Cuz English class at school was very focused on "proper" English (ie British English). Even remember we had one class where we learned American "variations". Not a word on any other kind of English.

I'm sure it's changed lately. You gotta remember I went to school pre internet, during the dinosaur era. Lol
 
Madi

Madi

Diane
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tanteva said:
Soda is the word they teach you in English class at school here in Sweden. Never heard pop before internet. Pop is music. Lol.

My guess is that they say soda in the UK? Cuz English class at school was very focused on "proper" English (ie British English). Even remember we had one class where we learned American "variations". Not a word on any other kind of English.

I'm sure it's changed lately. You gotta remember I went to school pre internet, during the dinosaur era. Lol
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i remember that too,

english was the language we learned,
when the pronunciation was to american we had a teacher (she was originally from the UK) and she said: the language is english, american is just an accent!! so not preferred!
 
tanteva

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Madi said:
i remember that too,

english was the language we learned,
when the pronunciation was to american we had a teacher (she was originally from the UK) and she said: the language is english, american is just an accent!! so not preferred!
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Exactly! I had a very American accent (Thanks to watching lots of TV), and I was "corrected" all the time. It wasn't until I started at the "adult school" (school for adults to get better grades to be able to go to uni), and I had a really good English teacher, that I understood all the differences. She was such an excellent teacher. One thing I loved about her teaching: she gave us home work, a short text in Swedish, and we were to translate it into English. Then we spent the entire next lesson, going through our translations. This way we learned that one sentence can be translated in different ways, and also, how the meaning could change by just using a different pronoun, for example. She taught us so much on the nuances of the language.
 
faerywings

faerywings

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We say soda when we mean it generically. The brand is used for specific instances.

The Real New Jersey Controversy is Taylor Ham vs Pork Roll.
North Jersey/NYC suburb area it is Taylor Ham. If someone asked for a pork roll sandwich they would be ignored until they said it correctly. South Jersey/Philly area is absolutely incorrect and obnoxious for calling it pork roll.

(Taylor Ham is the brand- so it is like calling all tissues Kleenex.)

As for why *I* am all salty over this- Not a clue, I don't eat it no matter what it is called. :p
 
tanteva

tanteva

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If you google Taylor ham - first result is the Wikipedia article Pork Roll. Solved.

(I'm a vegetarian - I object to both LOL)
 
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