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A question for Methodists

faerywings

The Loopy-O
CHEERY O
I know, I am on odd duck :hurt:

But-- my godson's Christening in a month away. I was raised Catholic but now I am more a of a non-religion type. He is being christened in my SIL's church which is Methodist.
Usually in Catholic tradition, the godmother gives the baby a medal- typically one of the name saint. For ex. Scott got a St Anthony medal from my (atheist no less) BFF , since that is his middle name.

Anyway.... (yes, this is a point to this) I do know that Methodists don't pray to saints. Do they recognize saints at all?
Is there another gift I should present to him instead or is it just something Catholics do?

TIA form a very religiously ignorant godmother!
 
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CookingMyLife

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Being the same type of Catholic you are, I obviously don't know the answer but am thinking a sweet child's Bible for him. Hope a Methodist chimes in.
 

kaytebug

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I know, I am on odd duck :hurt:

But-- my godson's Christening in a month away. I was raised Catholic but now I am more a of a non-religion type. He is being christened in my SIL's church which is Methodist.
Usually in Catholic tradition, the godmother gives the baby a medal- typically one of the name saint. For ex. Scott got a St Anthony medal from my (atheist no less) BFF , since that is his middle name.

Anyway.... (yes, this is a point to this) I do know that Methodists don't pray to saints. Do they recognize saints at all?
Is there another gift I should present to him instead or is it just something Catholics do?

TIA form a very religiously ignorant godmother!

Hi.... Children's pastor in a United Methodist Church... so weighing in....please note, this is a "kaylea-fied" translation... and I don't always have the right answers - but this is how I understand it and explain to parents (it's been a while since I had this class).

1) He's probably being baptized NOT Christened. Methodists recognize baptism as a sacrament, and they recognize infant baptism as one way to have this sacrament.

During an infant baptism, we believe that this is the start of the faith journey. It's a sign of God's grace, working in the child's life. During an infant baptism, the congregation - the faith family - is charged with helping take an active roll in the child's life, along with the family.

(There is a chance he's being "dedicated" if his parents want to wait to let him be baptized later, as a youth - during confirmation - typically sixth ish grade, when he can choose to become a full member in the church, because the Methodist church does NOT believe in being baptized more than once - for a variety of reasons, but the easiest to explain is that the second baptism is like a "do over" and says that God's grace didn't "take" the first time.... again, this is a Kaylea translation of a deeper thought).

2) We don't do saints. You are right on that. So the saint medal might not be as "important" to him, because it's not going to be something in his faith tradition.--- side note: some of my fav writers are catholic - Thomas Merton, Henri Nowan, Mother Teresa, etc.....and we talk about St. Francis of Assisi and other stuff.....so we don't completely run away from our Catholic/Church of England roots.

My suggestions....
You could get him a cross - my fav place to "lust" after is James Avery...
http://bit.ly/riyKrP (I have the charm of this necklace pendant : http://bit.ly/oCEZVE that I got when I graduated from high school from the church. It's smaller, and I know wasn't as expensive.....this might be a confirmation gift....so keep it on file!)

Now this might be a better girl gift..... so...
or an angel id bracelet: http://bit.ly/qOy3iN
again, a girly type of gift.....
(If mom has a charm bracelet, a charm might be the gift to give her....just a thought).

So, you might want to give him a Bible
This is my new all-time favorite children's bible.
http://amzn.to/nLiDcQ
The Jesus Story Book Bible - I LOVE this bible. Would give it to all new parents if I could afford it. I would get the deluxe version, because the audio cds that go with it are AMAZING. The narrator reads the story, and he has such a great voice.

This is another good storybook bible, because the illustrations are AMAZING: http://amzn.to/nO7DLT (Children of God by Archbishop Desmond Tutu).

3) I think the main thing is, you be present at the baptism, and celebrate with his family. Make sure you get a pic with him. The gift, honestly, isn't as important as your presence.

Does this help?
K
 

cellomom

...loves her some "O"
I grew up Methodist, Chris!! (can you believe??? LOL!!) and in "our" vernacular, saints are everyone who believed/believes in Jesus.

I think anything you give him is a blessing!! Our Catholic relatives would always give my kids crosses.

At our church (non-denominational), the pastor (who you've met, Chris!! love that!!) writes the child a letter for them to open on their 18th birthday. I think that is the coolest tradition. And the church gives them a little child's Bible. But that's actually when we dedicate them as babies. They choose baptism later. And that's a whole other can of worms! :)
 

kaytebug

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I grew up Methodist, Chris!! (can you believe??? LOL!!) and in "our" vernacular, saints are everyone who believed/believes in Jesus.

I think anything you give him is a blessing!! Our Catholic relatives would always give my kids crosses.

At our church (non-denominational), the pastor (who you've met, Chris!! love that!!) writes the child a letter for them to open on their 18th birthday. I think that is the coolest tradition. And the church gives them a little child's Bible. But that's actually when we dedicate them as babies. They choose baptism later. And that's a whole other can of worms! :)

Oh Sally... you may have given me a new tradition... a letter. WOW.... what a powerful gift.

Cans of worms... yepper... did you notice the disclaimer on everything I said... "kaylea translations"..... lol.... I don't' have everything figured out yet....lol... the more I know, the less I know.... kwim? tee hee...
 

clarabear

always chatty at the O!!
I LOVE the letter suggestion. You could type it up, print it on cool paper and seal it (if you have a seal. Then maybe put it in a nice box. I'm not Methodist but I know many churches have similar non-catholic traditions. My church also dedicates babies rather than an actual baptism...but it is still as important. I personally don't like giving kids bibles before they are able to use them (much better for a baptism that they have chosen) but that's just me. Although there are some storybook ones that are great. Good luck. Let us know what you decide to do.
 

kaytebug

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I LOVE the letter suggestion. You could type it up, print it on cool paper and seal it (if you have a seal. Then maybe put it in a nice box. I'm not Methodist but I know many churches have similar non-catholic traditions. My church also dedicates babies rather than an actual baptism...but it is still as important. I personally don't like giving kids bibles before they are able to use them (much better for a baptism that they have chosen) but that's just me. Although there are some storybook ones that are great. Good luck. Let us know what you decide to do.

I respectfully disagree about the bible especially one that is designed to be read aloud is so important.

It's an amazing way to help a child start On their faith journey.
 

faerywings

The Loopy-O
CHEERY O
Thank you all so much for your input. And Kaylea- thanks so much for the Kaylea-fied definitions! Much appreciated!

I like the idea of a Bible....but I think that might be a bit hypocritical coming from me. I know my bother and SIL were very happy when I walked into the church for their wedding and didn't get struck by lightning.

I love the idea of a letter, but what would I write? Don't grow up to be like your godmother, the non-believer? :oops: LOL


I do like the idea of a cross. (Not a crucifix- I do know the difference with them! heh!) I think that might be my best bet.

what do you think of this as well... My godson has a cousin and a grandmother who have passed on. I was thinking of scrapping a page with their "symbols" (Tigger and a cardinal) with the words "Someone to Watch Over Me". Tacky? Thoughtful? What do you think?
 

clarabear

always chatty at the O!!
If you wrote a letter it wouldn't have to necessarily need to have anything to do with their faith. They chose you for you and not because of your beliefs so you don't need to fake it. In a letter you would just want to write about all of your hopes for them to grow into an adult as you love and support them along the way. If you include anything about their beliefs you can just say something about wanting him to be strong in his beliefs so that they guide him along the way.
 

clarabear

always chatty at the O!!
Oh, and as far as the bible...that is just my personal choice. I wouldn't choose that as a gift personally but if someone had given one to my kids I would have felt totally blessed by that gift. If that is what you want to give I think you giving it would not be hypocritical at all. I think it would show respect and tolerance towards their beliefs and that while you don't believ in the same things you still love and respect theirs and are willing to do your part to help cultivate them as he grows.
 

Lydia Designs

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LOVE the letter idea...!!!

I grew up Methodist, Chris!! (can you believe??? LOL!!) and in "our" vernacular, saints are everyone who believed/believes in Jesus.

I think anything you give him is a blessing!! Our Catholic relatives would always give my kids crosses.

At our church (non-denominational), the pastor (who you've met, Chris!! love that!!) writes the child a letter for them to open on their 18th birthday. I think that is the coolest tradition. And the church gives them a little child's Bible. But that's actually when we dedicate them as babies. They choose baptism later. And that's a whole other can of worms! :)
 

petey111

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“God is indeed deep,” she said to the fish in the sea;
“and much higher than high,” she told the mountains.​
“He is swift and free as the wind, and still and solid as a great rock,” she said to the breezes and stones.​
“She is the life of the world,” Turtle said to the willow. “Always close by, yet beyond the farthest twinkling light,” she told the ant and the star.​
“God is gentle and powerful. Above all things and within all things.​
“God is all that we dream of, and all that we seek,” said Old Turtle, “all that we come from and all that we can find.”​
“God IS”​
 

faerywings

The Loopy-O
CHEERY O
I checked in with SIL-- the godfather is giving him a cross, but she loved the idea of a St Christopher medal. And I get to pick out some shoes for him. They wanted an heirloom style gown so they bought that themselves (Thank goodness - it was $300!) but they said plain shoes for him would be fine.

Yay, now I get to shop for him!
 

kaytebug

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I checked in with SIL-- the godfather is giving him a cross, but she loved the idea of a St Christopher medal. And I get to pick out some shoes for him. They wanted an heirloom style gown so they bought that themselves (Thank goodness - it was $300!) but they said plain shoes for him would be fine.

Yay, now I get to shop for him!

A friend of mine took her heirloom gown, and the shoes and had the shoes "personalized with info" and put them in a shadow box after the baptisms of each of her kiddos.

I can get a pic of it if your SIL is interested.
 
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