Off side elements

[Kythe]

A long while ago I was making freebies and QP's for a site owner. She had one pet peeve that I could not seem to follow. She didn't like any elements to go off the page. A corner cluster had to have full elements, no halves or partials, borders could not have lace off the side leaves off the page etc.. That still crosses my mind whenever I make a cluster or border. She felt it wouldn't be that way if it were a physical scrap item so it shouldn't be on a digital page either. I suppose it is a valid thought.

What do you think? Is digital scrapping supposed to be a copy of a physical scrap page or is it something entirely different with the same purpose in mind?

 

[BrightEyes]

When I first started Digital scrapping, I tried to make it look like a physical paper page. Then I noticed that many designers would place elements/clusters/borders with parts of them off the edge. I would say that having off the edges of a page is okay unless you have a designer who has expressed that she wants her of all be on the page. If you look at designers' templates - many of the elements and stamps/overlays extend off the edges.

Personally, I like borders that off the edge... and love corner borders off the edge - especially those that use brushes.

 

[Cherylndesigns]

I like elements that go off the page. Especially in the corners. I'm trying to remember when I paper scrapped - I put the pages in plastic sleeves, so I guess the elements couldn't go off the edge, unless they were cut that way, or if the patterned paper had off the edge patterns on it. To me, that's one of th beauties of digi scrapping - I think it's very artsy to have elements going off the page.

 

[scrap-genie]

I have never paper scrapped, so I've never been concerned with copying the look. To me digiscrapping is its own art form no different from other art forms. Some artists create an image within the bounds of the page and many do not.

 

[Madi]

I think all my pages have elements that go off the pages, I like it better that way.
I don't think you can compare todays digital scrapping to physical pages, look at all the elements we scrap now (fresh digital flowers, photomasks etc.) that we would never use on a physical page?

 

[Kythe]

I think all my pages have elements that go off the pages, I like it better that way.
I don't think you can compare todays digital scrapping to physical pages, look at all the elements we scrap now (fresh digital flowers, photomasks etc.) that we would never use on a physical page?

I totally agree. That's why I couldn't understand the directive to not do it.

 

[Madi]

I just opened up an older layout that I know has a lot of elements going of the page,
and added a red outline to show just the final page!

I think it adds possibilities of using elements that I would not use in the "normal" way, but now they do show up on my page.

 

[pachimac]

My goal when first digital scrapping was to look so much like paper that people wouldn't know if it was a physical page or a digital page. I started at 2 Peas in a Bucket and it was NASTY - the fighting between the paper scrappers and the digi girls was epic. The paper scrappers seemed to HATE us and didn't want us even at the site. They made a digi only gallery because there would even be nasty comments on our layouts. I'm sure it was a reaction to not wanting to put myself in their sights, but also to see if I could trick them into thinking it was physical to show that we were somehow legitimate.

Now? I still like it to look like paper, but I have no problem with clusters going off the edges.

 

[AZK]

I supposed it could be relevant if you wanted to be able to take the edge cluster and move it into the middle of a page, but if you leave everything intact like @Madi does, that wouldn't be an issue. For my part, I crop my page to get rid of the overhanging stuff---I learned that a long time ago as a way to reduce file size---so I'm definitely committed to the arrangement once I do that.

 

[EvelynD2]

I just opened up an older layout that I know has a lot of elements going of the page,
and added a red outline to show just the final page!

I think it adds possibilities of using elements that I would not use in the "normal" way, but now they do show up on my page.

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This is a fantastic illustration! Your page is fabulous!

 

[EvelynD2]

I go off the edge on some layouts . I think comparing digital to paper is like comparing apples to oranges. Digital scrapbooking offers the freedom to go off the edge if we want. It is my preference, in certain cases, to do so. In others I show the whole element.

 

[scribler]

When I first started in digi back in 2006, I was very much of the mindset that I should only do what I could have done with a paper layout. I still have to fight that idea sometimes but I am not tied to it the way I once was.

 

[bcgal00]

I was a paper scrapper to start with and I didn't extend products off the edge, it just didn't look realistic. Then I eventually came to the realization that I was no longer paper scrapping, I was digi scrapping and pretty much anything goes, including off the edge. Now I go off the edge and no longer cringe when I do it LOL.

@pachimac Susie - that made me laugh (those crazy conversations that would go on) and sure brought back memories of the other site. I was one of the paper scrappers for years and yes, there were lots of conversations about realism and digi.

 

[Jam-on-toast]

I think everyone who started as a paper scrapper and them moved to digital went through an adjustment phase... I couldn't figure out the point of masking while my mom - inspired by MY paper albums but having opted for digital - raved about them.

I imagine designers create their products with an idea of how their kits woud/could/should be used and tend to not be wild about pages that use their products in an unexpected way. As a CT member, I have no problem following the requirements, but as a scrapper I have been put off many a kit because it was 'not my style'. Havig scrapped for more than a decade now, I believe that most kits can be adapted to a variety of scrapping styles and enjoy seeing CT pages that don't all follow the same formula.

 

[AZK]

I think everyone who started as a paper scrapper and them moved to digital went through an adjustment phase... I couldn't figure out the point of masking while my mom - inspired by MY paper albums but having opted for digital - raved about them.

I imagine designers create their products with an idea of how their kits woud/could/should be used and tend to not be wild about pages that use their products in an unexpected way. As a CT member, I have no problem following the requirements, but as a scrapper I have been put off many a kit because it was 'not my style'. Havig scrapped for more than a decade now, I believe that most kits can be adapted to a variety of scrapping styles and enjoy seeing CT pages that don't all follow the same formula.

I once mentioned to a designer that having made an "off theme" layout with a new product, to let me know if she didn't want me to post it... her reply was that she loved it because it showed potential customers how versatile the product could be. I don't understand designers who don't feel that way.

 

[Kythe]

@AZK Me neither, but to each her own. I actually had to withdraw from the team as I couldn't get my head around it and felt stifled.

 

[Susan - s3js]

I have always let the elements go off the edge. I did start as a paper scrapper, but my scrapping mentor did all this glorious stuff with hinged elements, lace, ribbon flowers and such. I wanted to do that but it's hard with boys! I can do that with hybrid and have learned to adapt my sleeves for the off edge stuff. Sleves that open to the side instead f the top make it easier. I also use memorablia pouches and such that can be affixed to the sleeves for my genealogy pages. Now I think on it, I've gotten very laid back and bohemian with some of my pages. It's fun!

 

[VickiStegall]

When I was a paper scrapper I would cut the item and save the other portion to use on another page.

For digital scrapbook clusters though, I would leave the whole item to add versatility to the cluster - then someone could use it in the middle of the page if they want to

 

[LSlycord]

I am not so good with clusters. Probably because I was more into replicating what I did with paper scrapping. It has been a goal of mine to get better with clusters (even though my favorites are designers who make them for me ) and as a result I have more of them going off of the page.

 

[zanthia]

i have no issie with elements going off the page but dont do it a lot - have done a lot of ct work but never had a designer mention that.